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Subject It depends on what you are starting with.
     
Posted by Russell@Z1 on December 04, 2005 at 12:04 PM
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In Reply To what can a 12k budget get you when buildind a tt z? (n/m) posted by zkylineracer on December 04, 2005 at 11:00 AM
     
Message If your starting with a vocational school project gone bad, that had kids working on it with absolutely no idea what they were doing. Then you take your auto NA that you are trying to convert to a 5 speed TT to a specialist with a torn in half lower core support, a JDM engine and transmission sitting down in it, but nothing hooked up although you actually thought it was ready to just be hooked all up and fire it up. With most of the wires cut off the engine and tranmission, oil pan crushed in, seized turbos, permantely gummed up injectors, in need of a 60k, even though it was an NA still had all the TT power steering pump, brackets, and accessories on it , still has a JDM AC compressor on it, then to top all that off some genius had installed and NA flywheel and clutch inside the TT 5 speed transmission you supplied that was already bolted to the motor. Boy was that confusing figuring out why the sarter wouldn't engage. Plus about a hundred other sensless things we had to straighten out. It all had to be pulled back out and stared from scratch. The most time consuming thing was searching for all the stuff that was so off the wall and out of place that no one would have suspected it.

Then the shop performs the following list below on your car and slices their labor rates out of sympathy, but can't properly finish the job because the project runs over budget for you.


Finish (redo) TT conversion (use existing motor)
Supply and install missing intercoolers, all piping, Radiator, shroud, AC condensor, lines, oil cooler, brackets
Z1 maintainence and performance package (and all it includes)
Z1 Stage 3 ECU upgrade
-External Autometer Boost gauge and pod
-Urethane Motor mounts
-Stainless Steel Divorced Downpipes
-EGR, AIV, Plenum water line elimination
-New PCV’s and Hoses installed
-Mobil 1 Synthetic Oil and Filter
-AC System recharged
-60k maintaince (New Timing belt, water pump, seals, and more)
-New NGK PFR6B-11B plugs installed

New Nissan EFI harness
New Nismo 555 injectors with new O-rings and fuel rail/plenum seals
rebuilt stock turbos with new oil lines and gaskets
replace and reseal valve cover gaskets and associated gaskets
crank key way
3 cans of brake cleaner
pull, repair, reseal, and replace oil pan to remove dent
Z1 onepiece Driveshaft
New Greddy Evo 2 Stainless Steel catback exhaust system
NA power steering components (NA pump, brackets, bolts, hoses)
Manipulate bent lower core support so piping will fit in place
Recommendedfixing properly but customer declined

New timing belt tensioner and idler pulleys
AC Compressor was JDM, install US AC compressor
used existing (provided) 02 sensors
3/14064-40p01 rear turbo to downpipe studs
New rear main seal installed
Good used alternator to replace the one included that wasn't for a Z32
Noticed shifter linakgage wouldn't move and select gears
Shifter linkage rod took a hard impact and was bent inside transmission
Replace shift rod that goes inside transmission
Replace all the sensors on the side of the transmission (wires were ripped out and unrepairable)
Replace starter (wires cut on it too short too splice)
Good used starter to battery and ground cables, ones on motor were cut.
Pulling transmission to determine wrong components installed
Pull transmission in car again and install TT flywheel and clutch
Clutch and flywheel in car are non-turbo
New Nissan Twin Turbo clutch kit
Resurfaced Used Twin turbo flywheel
Redline in transmission
Transmission mount ripped in half and crossmember missing, replace
Install good set of stock catalyic converters
Missing all the rear exhaust hangars
4 big hose clamps 505-1210
4 medium size hose clamps 505-1206
1 small hose clamps 505-1204
1/92400-30p00 heater core hose
1/92410-30p00 heater core hose
throwout bearing spring clip
3 feet high pressure fuel line (old lines cut and cracking)
Good used Mass air flow sensor
Good used performance air intake
Splice wiring harness for auto to 5 speed conversion including wiring plug from parts car
Used brake booster hoses and check valve
change TPS (after running diagnosed and replaced existing one)
Diagnosed and replaced bad (supplied ECU coolant temp sensor)
Replaced coolant temp sending unit for gauge (existing one broken)
Kuruma Z door moldings
Pass side manual seat bracket
Brakes aren't working
Install front facia? Headlights should be intalled first!
Jumped starter relay due to some internal wiring problems
new interstate battery

Then during the whole process as we continually find and advise you of more problems that were impossible to see at first your dad calls us and cusses us out several times saying we are making stuff up and trying to scam you. Unbeleivable!
I only wish you would have followed Halo's recomedations tried taking this car to some of the other shops in the area. Balanced Performance, AAP, etc so you could see just how reasonable and resourceful we are.

If we had it to do over again it would be $20k and that would be a fair price for the parts and time it took. I hope some of the other members here actually take the time to read this and do the math for these parts and estimate the labor time. I'll let someone else tell you what kind of a deal you got.

Russell Floyd

Z1 Motorsports
www.z1motorsports.com
1990+ Nissan Z specialists

Used Parts, New parts, Service/Repair and Performance

1200 Carrollton Hwy
Temple, Ga 30179

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